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Dad3353
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TubeSync valve monitoring..?

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Good evening,all...
Any opinions or experience of this..?
http://tubesync.co.uk/tubesync-bias-engine-v4-382.htm :?:
Doesn't seem to need surgery on the amp or cab...
No idea regarding price.
My particular interest would be for KT88's (my DR203, for clean bass...)
(maybe for my Bassman 50w Export head and Mesa 2:90 Simul Class too, but they would be OT here..! :shock: )
Is it worthwhile :idea: , or a gadget :!: ?
Have a good day.

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Re: TubeSync valve monitoring..?

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Dad3353 wrote:Is it worthwhile :idea: , or a gadget :!: ?
Dunno. First time I've seen it. Interesting idea. It would seem to work like a Bias-Rite, but actually control voltage to the tubes rather than just report it.

Questions off the top of my head would be:

Does it work transparently, without effecting tone?

Is there enough clearance inside the amp cab for the additional socket height (some are pretty tight already)?

Will the thing stay put in transit, in a velcro'd semi-permanent installation?

How much heat does it put off and would that be detrimental to the amp?

Can it boost as well as cut?

Why don't you buy one and let us know the answers ;) ?

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Re: TubeSync valve monitoring..?

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That seems a big, clunky module just to avoid biasing your tubes. :? I guess it does have some other benefits. I wonder what it's failure modes are (everything electronic fails eventually), hopefully not "tube meltdown."

I've experimented with self-biasing circuits, they're not too hard to do, but they add a lot of complication to a simple 'ol tube amp. And more complication always means more things to break.

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Re: TubeSync valve monitoring..?

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Good afternoon, Dave...
Thanks for the reply; those are indeed the questions in my mind...
OldSchoolDave wrote:Does it work transparently, without effecting tone?
If it works as per the 'blurb', it shouldn't 'tonally' affect the amp, except for ensuring the closest bias possible, so perhaps less subtle harmonics, more 'hifi-like' (that's what I'd want for bass...), but the bias 'imbalance' can be adjusted, it seems, so that could be good for Townsend-like guitar..?
Is there enough clearance inside the amp cab for the additional socket height (some are pretty tight already)?
There should be room in a DR203; combos could be limited..? The race would be on for shorter tubes..!
Will the thing stay put in transit, in a velcro'd semi-permanent installation?
In my very domestic setup,this shouldn't be a problem; I suppose a more solid fixation, such as screwing to the inside top, wouldn't destroy the vintage value too much, if done cleanly. For 'pro' use, I don't imagine there's that many collector amps out there as rented backline.
How much heat does it put off and would that be detrimental to the amp?
It could be the opposite; apparently the valve heat output is lessened, and the total head heat output could be reduced, even with some dissipation from the unit (at least that's what I understood...)
Can it boost as well as cut?
If it's controlling the valves completely, I assumed that it could increase as well as decrease the bias, as long as the result was not out of tolerance (such as a duff valve...)
Why don't you buy one and let us know the answers ;) ?
Why not, indeed? Still no idea on price, but sooner or later I would be looking for a quad of KT88's; acquiring singletons and using this unit for bias optimisation could recover the cost of the unit, seeing the price of matched quads (or pairs of pairs...). I've not had the amp long, and it's not 'hammered' daily, so I'm not needing to swap out right now, but that's when to start preparing, isn't it? My bassman is closer to revision time, but then we're back to 'headroom' problems (physically...). As to the Mesa, it has an octal tube set, and space is more than tight in the 'rack' head.
I'm principally a drummer (amateur, now...), so my budget also has to be stretched to include cymbals (any 602's out there going cheap..? No..? Didn't think so...); my guitars need upkeep (and keep reclaiming stablemates..!), the house has to be repainted, tyres for the car... We all know the score... If I go for it, I'll inform, but it wouldn't be this quarter, anyway, so there's no rush.
Have a good day.

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mhuss wrote:That seems a big, clunky module just to avoid biasing your tubes...And more complication always means more things to break...
Good afternoon, Mark...
You're right, of course, from a certain 'absolute' point of view; a nice piece of overkill. However, to use a rather poor analogy, I'm now more in the market for an automatic car than the two-door roadster I had (many...) years ago. I still want some of the 'fun' results, but can no longer 'get under the bonnet' quite so much. There is a trade-off here (not least financially...). My (very modest...) 'collection' of gear is more than 50% nostalgia and sentimental, not at all justified by my musical 'abilities' nor public performance (although when we play out, we like to give the best...). Perhaps my tastes are above my budget (I'd really love a Bentley, but drive a ZX...), but if, as claimed, the amp could be 'self-maintained' up to a point, there could be a justification (at least for some...). I'll have to ask the price and see what that inspires. If it's 'over the top', my questions are academic anyway. I tend naturally towards a certain sceptisism (to not class myself as resolutely cynic...), so I'm not trying to talk myself into this, but it could solve some issues for me. No hurry for the moment, but could be interesting.
Thanks for the input; to be continued..?
Have a good day.

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oops.. just found the thread over here.. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1168 so site moderators please move this there if so desired..

I do not think my HIWATT needs this anyway... :mrgreen:
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