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does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:31 am
by hohohiwatter
does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?
cheers

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:34 am
by hohohiwatter
come on there must be some 1?
my guess is that 1' a guitar or bass an the other p.a.?
or just guitar or bass?
an i've seen some that r 75w i thought that they only came in 100w. it seems the crescendo range was bigger than i thought. i thought it was just 1 type of fane speaker but it seems that there is quite a few different types in the range.

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:25 pm
by OldSchoolDave
hohohiwatter wrote:come on there must be some 1?
There doesn't seem to be :( . If someone does know, they're not active (or sharing) on the internet forums. Precious little documentation on vintage Fane speakers to begin with, let alone on that elusive model.

I have seen pictures of Crescendo A's with two different label types, which would seem to indicate different eras. I have also seen photos of PA speakers with the Crescendo designation. Fane, during some eras, did use "B" as a designation for Bass. I wasn't aware of a 75 watt version and was working under the assumption that all Crescendos were 100 watters.

The more we learn, the less we know...

Dave

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:39 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
OldSchoolDave wrote:
hohohiwatter wrote:come on there must be some 1?
There doesn't seem to be :( . If someone does know, they're not active (or sharing) on the internet forums. Precious little documentation on vintage Fane speakers to begin with, let alone on that elusive model.

I have seen pictures of Crescendo A's with two different label types, which would seem to indicate different eras. I have also seen photos of PA speakers with the Crescendo designation. Fane, during some eras, did use "B" as a designation for Bass. I wasn't aware of a 75 watt version and was working under the assumption that all Crescendos were 100 watters.

The more we learn, the less we know...

Dave

+1
I have seen Crescendos that were 100w. with Aluminum dustcaps, but weren't marked A or B.

I didn't know a 75w version existed.

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:30 pm
by hohohiwatter
yeh recently seen 2 that r rated 75watts,16ohms and 20,000flux density '72 (i think, but its hard to make out the label) with grey cloth dust covers.

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Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:59 pm
by OldSchoolDave
hohohiwatter wrote:yeh recently seen 2 that r rated 75watts,16ohms and 20,000flux density '72 (i think, but its hard to make out the label) with grey cloth dust covers.
IF those cones are original, it would make sense that "B" Crescendos were designed for Bass applications (including woofer applications in Sound Reinforcement).

Not sure how responsive they'd be for guitar. Some guys (myself included) like using bass speakers for guitar - in certain circumstances. Others find the stiffer cones more brittle sounding.

Will that seller provide higher quality pics of the stamps and any cone codes?

Dave

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:05 pm
by hohohiwatter
have asked, will post when i get a reply.
it seems a bit odd tho that iff they r for bass that there rated less at 75w?! shurly for bass u'd want high as poss. like the 100w 1's.
i dunno,
could u see the picks i tried to put up it just sez image for me

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:18 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
I would suspect they have the same Voice Coil as the "A", but rated lower to compensate for the bass abuse

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:22 pm
by OldSchoolDave
Dr.HIWATT wrote:I would suspect they have the same Voice Coil as the "A", but rated lower to compensate for the bass abuse
My thoughts exactly! Lower frequencies create more stress, therefore the reduced (advertised) power handling.

Dave

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:27 pm
by hohohiwatter
ahh well that makes sence.
prob wood sound nice in a 4x12 with 2 more hiwatt fanes or sound city or summit.
bit o bright with a bit o bass

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:02 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
OldSchoolDave wrote:
Dr.HIWATT wrote:I would suspect they have the same Voice Coil as the "A", but rated lower to compensate for the bass abuse
My thoughts exactly! Lower frequencies create more stress, therefore the reduced (advertised) power handling.

Dave

Great minds! :D

Indeed they may sound great with a pair of something else.

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:53 am
by hohohiwatter
ok boys heres some pics

for some reason the only out of focus pics r the 1's of the labels!!

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:12 pm
by OldSchoolDave
hohohiwatter wrote: for some reason the only out of focus pics r the 1's of the labels!!
:( It'd be nice if the seller would use the MACRO setting on his camera for those closeups...

Hard to tell more from those photos. It looks as though some of the writing has been gone over with a Sharpie at some time. Not sure why. They appear to be the genuine. Just hard to tell specifics with the blurry pics. Has he provided cone codes?

Dave

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:59 pm
by hohohiwatter
yeh i've asked about 1 of the labels seems to have been erased then appears to be rewritten this is what they sed,
The stickers are original as from the shop -just a little unclear. The serial numbers are ; 3371 and 0672. As far as I can make out,the guy with rubber stamp has overdone it on one speaker, cheers.
the other 1 seems to have the stamp print intact, maybe for some reason the other label got damaged an they just copied over the info?

Re: does any1 no the difference between crescendo A & B?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:01 pm
by hohohiwatter
or maybe the stamped print on the sticker was very faint an some1 decided to make it clearer?