New vs. Old (speaker shootout)
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New vs. Old (speaker shootout)
Here we go...
Weber Thames (50W, 50 oz. magnet, Fane cone treatment) vs. '71 HIWATT Fane 122231 (50W 14,000 flux)
SM-57 centered on dust cap + Sennheiser e906 off-axis, both 1" off grille cloth
A little reverb added in ProTools, no eq or compression.
Amp settings:
Normal = 10
Brilliant = 10
Bass = 7.5
Treble = 2.5
Middle = 3.5
Presence = 5.25
Master Volume = 2
'59 bridge humbucker straight in - no pedals
See if you can "Name That Speaker":
http://home.comcast.net/~going2spain/hi ... aker_X.mp3
http://home.comcast.net/~going2spain/hi ... aker_Y.mp3
Nothing fancy - I spared you guys the Rush references this time.
Weber Thames (50W, 50 oz. magnet, Fane cone treatment) vs. '71 HIWATT Fane 122231 (50W 14,000 flux)
SM-57 centered on dust cap + Sennheiser e906 off-axis, both 1" off grille cloth
A little reverb added in ProTools, no eq or compression.
Amp settings:
Normal = 10
Brilliant = 10
Bass = 7.5
Treble = 2.5
Middle = 3.5
Presence = 5.25
Master Volume = 2
'59 bridge humbucker straight in - no pedals
See if you can "Name That Speaker":
http://home.comcast.net/~going2spain/hi ... aker_X.mp3
http://home.comcast.net/~going2spain/hi ... aker_Y.mp3
Nothing fancy - I spared you guys the Rush references this time.
You can almost feel the current flowing
You can almost see the circuits blowing
You can almost see the circuits blowing
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Not wanting to be similarly chastised, I plugged in headphones before listening .mikhailwatt wrote:Headphones, man, headphones! (not iPod earbuds, either)
That said, I'm going to agree with Clayton's guess (X = Fane / Y = Thames).
The "Y" speaker seemed a bit more scooped in the mids to me. A little less "in your face", so to speak.
Any other guessers out there ?
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I could crank the middle, but with the way I've got it set now, turning the middle up past 4 increases the harsher, clanky high-mid "glare" that I had been fighting to tame.OldSchoolDave wrote: I'd like to hear a comparison again, once the Thames is fully broken in. Are you able to dial in more mid to flatten out the scoop?
I'm still getting used to this tone stack - at first I always had the middle up around 6-7, treble and presence down to 2-3, but it was still pretty spikey. A couple months ago I started from scratch with everything rolled off, then rolled up the bass and dialed in the middle & treble to suit. I'm really happy with the tone now - it does the "Entre Nous" tone (track 4 from Permanent Waves for the non-Rush fan ) perfectly.
This amp doesn't do mid-scoop in the "metal" sense - and that's fine with me.
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Thanks for the clips Mike, that was fun! I liked clip X better as well. Although clip Y sounds pretty cool too... it just hasn't had 30+ years break in time yet!
That being said I just compared the Fane clip with some of my recordings of a Reeves 4x12 with VP's and found that they have that same "woodieness" to the tone.
That being said I just compared the Fane clip with some of my recordings of a Reeves 4x12 with VP's and found that they have that same "woodieness" to the tone.
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Man, now I've got to hear one of those Reeves/VP cabs... my quest for a real Hylight 4x12 hasn't panned out so far.JC103 wrote:That being said I just compared the Fane clip with some of my recordings of a Reeves 4x12 with VP's and found that they have that same "woodieness" to the tone.
You can almost feel the current flowing
You can almost see the circuits blowing
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