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Ebay DR103 looks wrong. am I imagining it?
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:45 pm
by thefatcyclist
Hi I saw this dr103 on Ebay. Am I imagining it or are there a whole load of compononets missing off the board?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-1970-Hiwa ... 3a6637f637
Re: Ebay 504 looks wrong. am I imagining it?
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:52 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
The preamp is more akin to a fender bassman or Marshall.
I have been torn as to whether or not to buy it. My collection is missing one from the 8xx range.
Re: Ebay DR103 looks wrong. am I imagining it?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:31 pm
by mhuss
The really early Hiwatts (S/N < 900...1000) had conventional Fender/Marshall style tone stacks, which are less complex than the later traditional Hiwatt tone stack. This gives them a different and interesting sound, and also leaves a bit more empty space on the board.
--mark
Re: Ebay DR103 looks wrong. am I imagining it?
Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:26 pm
by thefatcyclist
good info thanks
Re: Ebay DR103 looks wrong. am I imagining it?
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:18 am
by metamatic
My DR-103 (sn 1097) has one of those marshall like tonestack. It also has both halves of V2 used (one triode to drive the tone-stack). It sounds sort of fuller (with more mid and mid-bass presence) and has slightly more gain than the standard preamp. I don't know if can spot other differences tonewise.
When i first got the amp, i thought it was not working properly, as keeping the trebles in the first half results in a really muddy sound. After inspecting the preamp i discovered it was a different design and then talking to people on the forum i've learnt about those different amps.
I'm still thinking of modifiying the preamp as i don't know if i can make it sound like a "standard" hiwatt just by tweaking the tone controls
Re: Ebay DR103 looks wrong. am I imagining it?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:04 pm
by ak-47
metamatic wrote:I'm still thinking of modifiying the preamp as i don't know if i can make it sound like a "standard" hiwatt just by tweaking the tone controls
hmmm... I wouldn't mess with it... get to know and love it for what it is. Or if you can do an A/B test with a later DR103, change over if you really prefer that sound. Might be suprized at the outcome... who knows
Re: Ebay DR103 looks wrong. am I imagining it?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:53 pm
by riba2233
Rule number 1 - NEVER modify the vintage Hiwatt
Re: Ebay DR103 looks wrong. am I imagining it?
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:51 am
by metamatic
Or if you can do an A/B test with a later DR103, change over if you really prefer that sound. Might be suprized at the outcome... who knows
That'd be great if only i could find a Hiwatt owner to do the test with.. anyway i'm seeking a good deal on a later and somewhat cheaper (2 holer) standard DR-103. Having both the specimens would definitely make me 100% satisfied i suppose
