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Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:51 pm
by theWalrus
I have a vintage Hiwatt DR-103 100W head and I'm looking for a vintage Hiwatt SE 4123 cabinet with fane speakers.

- what's the typical price range?.

- I've read on page 9 of the vintage catalog (http://hiwatt.org/info/hiwattCatalogPages.pdf) the recommended for my amp is 2X SE 4123 or 2X SE 4122. Wow! :mrgreen: But I don't need that.

- I'm hoping just 1X SE 4123 will do the trick; that's what everybody else except for stadium rock stars seem to use. If I go for a 2X12 or a 1X12, I'm just afraid of compatibility issues: maybe they can't handle it. The extra dB cut from less speakers would be welcome. I'm planning to use it along with an Aracom PRX150-DAG attenuator (-40dB max) and earplugs (-25dB), of course. I just need a good tone; it doesn't have to be loud.

- I found this one on ebay, but it's not vintage:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hiwatt-4x12-Fan ... 416ff3a837

- I'm aware Hiwatt sells some made in China 4x12's with fanes and I wonder if they are a good substitute

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:18 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
you don't want the one on ebay. I can't believe that some one really bid $999 on that. :shock:

FYI, there were no vintage 2x12 or 1x12 cabs.

real HIWATT 4x12's range from $800-$1500 depending on condition.

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:31 pm
by theWalrus
It wasn't me. :lol:

I did find a 4123 in "player's condition" (stained grill cloth) elsewhere for 800, but they want 250 for US shipping. It probably weighs 100 lbs, but that's a lot of money for shipping. I'm trying to get them to sell it with free shipping, but it's a tough wrestle.

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:34 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
If the speakers are original and not reconed, they would be crazy or desperate to sell it for $800 shipping included.

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:41 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
I'd be very careful running a DR103 through a single SE4123.
two years in a row at VHC's I had a speaker blow, thanks to a DR103.

That is why, I sold off most of my old speaker cabs. To me, they are expensive, ticking time bombs. They aren't worth much once a speaker blows.

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:42 pm
by theWalrus
I see your point; the price is pretty much as low as it can get. Thanks for that info.

The store is 1800 miles away from me. Is 250 a fair/typical shipping price for continental USA?

That would make it 1050 on speakers. :cry:

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:45 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
$250 is a little high. But shipping to PHX is expensive. I would think that $180-$200 is fair.

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:50 pm
by theWalrus
Thank you so much. I appreciate the info.

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:58 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
You are welcome!

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:48 pm
by OldSchoolDave
theWalrus wrote:Is 250 a fair/typical shipping price for continental USA?
FYI - Last I checked, UPS home delivery had a limit of 75 pounds.

A packaged HIWATT 4x12 will be in the 105 - 115 pound range (depending on packing).

FedEx will deliver something that heavy to a residence, but will charge additional for the service. If there's any way to receive your packages at a commercial address, your options increase - and resulting rates decrease. Having a loading dock helps even more.

Dave

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:18 pm
by theWalrus
OldSchoolDave wrote:
theWalrus wrote:Is 250 a fair/typical shipping price for continental USA?
FYI - Last I checked, UPS home delivery had a limit of 75 pounds.

A packaged HIWATT 4x12 will be in the 105 - 115 pound range (depending on packing).

FedEx will deliver something that heavy to a residence, but will charge additional for the service. If there's any way to receive your packages at a commercial address, your options increase - and resulting rates decrease. Having a loading dock helps even more.

Dave
Dave, UPS delivers home for that weight. That's my arrangement. The fun part will be getting that elephant on casters; standard, pop out ones don't seem to fit. I think I'll keep it on top of a furniture dolly while I don't have a real case. :lol:
Dr.HIWATT wrote:I'd be very careful running a DR103 through a single SE4123.
two years in a row at VHC's I had a speaker blow, thanks to a DR103.

That is why, I sold off most of my old speaker cabs. To me, they are expensive, ticking time bombs. They aren't worth much once a speaker blows.
So, I got that SE4123 I show pictures of in the fane thread. I'm thinking if I use a good attenuator and keep the volume down, it shouldn't be an issue for single 4x12 cabinet use. A top notch attenuator should bring 100W down to less than 1W.

In case you (or anyone in the hiwatt community) ever have a SE4123 ready to let go of, let me know! Maybe I'll be interested, so I can unleash my DR103 beyond bedroom level. :mrgreen: It'd be fun to start doing gigs at some point, but I'm technically not there yet. This gear is just to stimulate me to practice.

Thanks guys. Have a good one.

Re: Wanted: Hiwatt SE 4123

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:48 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
i will be listing an early 1972 later today