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DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:43 pm
by hiwattguenni
Hi
i have a DR 405 for changing tubes on my bench. I`m a little confused about the preamp tubes.
V1= ECC83
V2= ECC83
V3= ECC83
V4= ECC81
V5= ECC83
Is that correct or ? or is there a mistake on marks Website?
Gunter
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:41 am
by Zentner
I can check what mine is when I'm home tomorrow.
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:20 pm
by Zentner
Unfortunately I won't be much help. In looking at the amp from the front, my leftmost preamp tubes have the silk screens work off. Center, and two right tubes are ECC83s.
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:59 am
by hiwattguenni
Thanks for your help!
The only question is , V5 must be an ECC 83? It`s the middle tube of the row.
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:30 pm
by Zentner
Yes, the middle tube is an ECC83 in mine,
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:12 pm
by mhuss
Actually, both the PI and the output stage driver should be ECC81. Starting from the input side, it should be 83, 83, 81, 83, 81.
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:47 pm
by hiwattguenni
Hi Mark
are you sure? I think it must be 83,83,81,81,83

Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:30 am
by Bossco
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:51 am
by hiwattguenni
Thanks BOSSCO
i know this schematic, but in this amp was an ECC83 as V5
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:58 pm
by Bossco
Anything can happen I suppose, however 99.9% sure that from Hylight your amp would have shipped out with an ECC81/12AT7 in the phase inverter position. Perhaps previous owner was a Marshall fan & chose ECC83/12AX7 like a Marshall would have...? Lots of opinions on the subject posted in various forums. My favorite source on the subject:
http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting. ... verter.pdf
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:22 pm
by hiwattguenni
ECC 81 for PI is correct. But after the PI must be additionel tube (V5). it`s a driver or impedance converter.
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:30 pm
by Bossco
hiwattguenni wrote: ECC 81 for PI is correct. But after the PI must be additionel tube (V5). it`s a driver or impedance converter.
Perhaps I misunderstand your comment, however V5 is the phase inverter (PI) which is last before the power tubes. note: last does not mean last in the row physically/visually, but last in the signal chain before power tubes.
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:23 pm
by hiwattguenni
Hi BOSSCO
we talking about the preamp from a DR 405. I know V4 is always the PI, but next tube in the signalflow is there V5. In Pittman`s schematics you can see an ECC83 ( V5 ) . It`s working as an impedance converter for the 6 KT88.
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:37 pm
by mhuss
The third tube from the input end is the PI on all Hylight amps. The 4th is the voltage reference. Only 405s have a 5th, and that's the driver.
Re: DR 405 V1-5
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:44 am
by hiwattguenni
but which is the right one for V5? ECC 81 or ECC 83 ?
