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Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:02 pm
by OldSchoolDave
Hoping some experts here will help provide background and guidance on the use of a variac to "condition" vintage equipment that's been sitting unused for awhile.
Of particular interest would be things like:
What to look for in a used variac?
Best places to find one?
Recommended procedure (time at each setting) for warming up a vintage amp?
And, anything else I missed?
thanks in advance,
Dave
Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:57 am
by mhuss
I use an old STACO unit that's I've had for decades (so I can't offer much advice with current shopping). It's very useful to have a dedicated voltmeter attached. I'd get a 10A unit minimum (for testing DR201s
).
As far as 'conditioning' use goes, I just turn it up part way, wait a few seconds, turn it up further, wait a few seconds... (lather. rinse. repeat.)
Total of maybe 4 "part ways" to full mains, total time of about 30 seconds.
--mark
Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:45 pm
by OldSchoolDave
mhuss wrote:Total of maybe 4 "part ways" to full mains, total time of about 30 seconds.
Thanks, Mark. For some reason, I got the impression it was more involved (and time-consuming) than that. Good to know!
Dave
Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:05 pm
by mhuss
OldSchoolDave wrote:
For some reason, I got the impression it was more involved (and time-consuming) than that.
Heck with it, just plug 'er in and flip the switch!
That will eliminate the weak and wimpy.
--mark
Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:13 pm
by Dr.HI-TONE
Break it in or break it down has always been my philosophy!
I have never bought into the "reforming" concept.
Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:10 am
by OldSchoolDave
Dr.HIWATT wrote:Break it in or break it down has always been my philosophy!
Easy to say when you've got a storeroom full of spare capacitors
.
Dave
Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:11 pm
by mhuss
All kidding aside, I never "form" new/recent vintage caps, and I have never had a problem. The only time I do the slow dance is if I'm firing up something that hasn't been switched on for decades.
A cheap and easy solution to soft starting is the "light bulb limiter." Make up a box using LowesDepot hardware: Connect a (real incandescent) light bulb -- 60w or so -- in *series* with an outlet in a box, and add a plug to it. Plug into this rig first, and it will limit that initial jolt. This rig is also great for testing amps that blow fuses -- if the light glows brightly and stays bright, you haven't fixed it yet.
--mark
Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:21 pm
by OldSchoolDave
mhuss wrote:
A cheap and easy solution to soft starting is the "light bulb limiter.
Now
there's the tip of the day
!
Glad I asked
.
Dave
Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:13 pm
by GigawattCustom121
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Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:36 pm
by GigawattCustom121
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Re: Variac 101 (please) ???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:18 pm
by OldSchoolDave
GigawattCustom121 wrote:
Actually, I just checked, we have both Powerstat models 3PN116B and 3PN116C at work. I'll vouch for both.
Great info, THANKS! I am still variac-less, but your detailed post may lead to a change in status
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Dave